More Than Medicine
More Than Medicine
MTM - Year End Book Recommendations
Five books. One lively conversation that jumps from genetics to law, from compassion to culture, from jungle missions to a CEO’s second chance. We pulled together a year-end stack that refuses easy answers and invites deeper thinking, practical wisdom, and real hope.
We start with Traced by Nathaniel T. Jeanson, a lay-friendly tour through genetics and human migrations that challenges assumptions about where we come from and how we got here. Then we turn to Vaccines Amen by attorney Aaron Siri, who opens the courtroom door on depositions, evidence standards, and the places where health policy starts to look more like dogma than science. The point isn’t to burn it all down; it’s to build trust through transparent data, honest limits, and accountability.
Ali Beth Stuckey’s Toxic Empathy presses on a tender nerve: compassion can harm when it drifts from truth. We unpack how that plays out in debates over abortion, immigration, and LGBT policy, and why wise love needs clear definitions, moral courage, and Scripture-saturated thinking. From there, Gary Dawson’s Gringo Mamo of the Amazon drops us into the Orinoco basin, where language, friendship, and spiritual conflict shape a raw portrait of mission work that is anything but tidy. Finally, Mike Lindell’s What Are the Odds traces a bruising path through addiction, gambling, entrepreneurship, and, eventually, a genuine encounter with faith that reorders everything.
Threading through our conversation is a simple conviction: readers are leaders. Daily Bible reading anchors us; thoughtful books expand us. If you’re setting goals for the new year, this list offers challenge, comfort, and a few jaw-dropping stories to keep you turning pages. Join us, take notes, and then tell us what you’re reading next.
If this conversation sparked a new title on your list, tap follow, share with a friend who loves a good book, and leave a quick review so others can find the show. Your feedback helps us choose the next stack.
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Welcome to More Than Medicine. I'm your host, Dr. Robert Jackson, bringing you biblical insights and stories from the Country Doctor's Rusty Dusty Scrapbook. Well, I'm privileged today to have in the studio with me my lovely daughter, Miss Hannah Miller, who is the host of the Hannah Miller Show. And she's going to help me out with my program today. Miss Hannah, welcome.
Speaker 3:Dad, it's always great to be here. And you know, my show's kind of taking a hiatus for the holidays, and uh, so it's kind of nice to get back in the seat and get behind a microphone again. I've been off for a few weeks, so uh, and I'll be off for a few more. So it's kind of nice to get back in here, but I'm so glad you asked me to come in. What are we going to be talking about?
Speaker 2:Well, today what I want us to do is we're gonna have a book review. If you remember in years past, in the end of the year, we would sometimes do a book review and we would look at some of the books that I've read during the year. So I want you to help me out with that today.
Speaker 3:Okay, so we'll go through a number of books. So tell me though, and this is something that I've I've told you every year at the end of that, because you're such a prolific reader and you read a variety of genres. It's not anyone, and there are seasons I know where you spend more time reading about a specific topic than others or whatever, a lot of times because you're doing research, but you've uh cover a wide variety, and the list that we have today is gonna cover a wide variety. But tell me, how many books a year do you think you read? If you had a guess.
Speaker 2:If I had to guess, uh I I always have two or three books going at one time. Okay. And I and I I estimate that I'll read about three books a month.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 2:And um and you're right, sometimes I get on one topic, and the big thing since 2004 has been vaccines. Um, and so I read a lot of books about vaccines. COVID vaccine, pediatric vaccines, and so that's that's a lot of what I've been studying, and and my listeners expect me to be on top of that.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And so I I read a lot about about vaccines, and in fact, a couple of the books we could talk about today have to do with with vaccines. Um, but uh you know, I read biographies. I I love biographies. Sometimes I read uh fiction books just for fun. Um I like uh Christian fiction as well. Uh and uh sometimes I read technical books. Um one of the books we'll talk about today is a technical book. Um so I have a variety of things that I I like to read. Sometimes I read Christian theology books, and so I have a variety of things that I like to read.
Speaker 3:Well, I'm excited because I bought you a book for Christmas and I think you're gonna like it.
Speaker 2:So my favorite presents at Christmas have been books ever since I was like 11 years old. My favorite Christmas presents have always been books.
Speaker 3:It's always like, oh, what are we gonna get to end of? Guess I'll get him a book and I know he's gonna love it.
Speaker 2:So I saw a billboard one time that said so many books, so little time.
Speaker 3:Any minute.
Speaker 2:And ever since then I said, Oh, so true.
Speaker 3:So true. Well, what what do you think though, before we dive into this, you know, stack of books we've got here, what do you think to you, what's the importance of reading? And it all include listening, because you we you know the the uh audiobooks are very popular now and they're becoming increasingly popular and available, which is fantastic. So we'll I'm gonna we're gonna lump those in. So when we say reading, we're also including audiobooks with that, basically consuming literature. Um what do you what are your thoughts on the importance of that?
Speaker 2:Well, like I've told you ever since you guys were children, readers are leaders. And and it's imperative that for Christian people in particular to be well informed. Because if we're gonna be world changers, if we're gonna be influential in the kingdom of God and influential in the the world at large, we have to be well informed. And so readers are always leaders. And and I challenge my children always to be uh always reading, always learning, always informed. And so you know, I I've always practiced that I and and I just have a thirst for knowledge. I just want to know things. And so I've I've always had a thirst for for reading and for learning, and and of course my favorite form of entertainment is reading. And I would always rather read a book than watch something on television or or on the internet. I'd just rather read. So, you know, and and of course, in in my opinion, the most important thing for all of us to read is the Bible, the holy scriptures. That's right. And and I always challenge my children and my friends to have a steady diet of of scripture intake every day. Three chapters a day and five on Sunday will help you read the Bible through exactly in one year. Three chapters a day, five on Sunday, and you'll read your Bible through exactly in one year. And I've done that every year since I was nineteen years of age. And it's because of that I I know all the Bible characters, I know all the Bible stories, I know Bible principles, and and there's a lot of things in the Bible that I just know because of repetition.
Speaker 3:Been drip, drip, drip, drip, drip through all the years. That's right. I do a uh uh a Bible in a year plan. I like to do Old Testament, New Testament, Psalms and a Proverb every day. And there's actually a Bible that is formatted for that. Now I've there's also an app where you can just like check it off and it'll tell you what you're supposed to read every day. And and I I I use that, and I've been doing that for um six years, I think, at least. So I've been doing it that way for probably six years, and I've really enjoyed doing it that way. But I've also done kind of how you said, just reading from Genesis to Revelation, uh going straight through as well. And it just kind of, but yeah, again, I and I think there's, and this is a whole different podcast, but I think there's something to the fact that when you say, you know, it's it's important to read in order to influence the world for the gospel, and people say, uh, I, you know, I don't think I have to read to be able to influence people, or I don't think reading is important or consuming literature is important. There's something about the fact that what did God give us? He gave us the word and he gave us literature. And of course, for a while it was spoken from one to the next, which is why I put a lot of merit in audiobooks as well. Because that was kind of originally what the Bible was. Um, and so I I think there's, and again, that's a whole different pot topic, and we could dive into at another date. Um, but God said that consuming literature is important, and so he gave us, you know, the most important book, which is his word. And I think the trickle-down effect of that or the ripple out effect of that isn't a lot of literature. Uh, it's important for us to consume good literature. So, anyway, that's just a that that was it, that was for free. But let's dive into this stack of books here because you've got a hefty stack and we don't have a ton of time. So, the very first book, all right. Let's let's dive right in. You've given me a book uh that you read this year called Traced. That's the title, and it's written by Nathaniel T. Jensen. And Jensen is J-E-A-N-S-O-N. Traced, what is this about?
Speaker 2:Well, it's a fascinating book, and I couldn't put it down when I started reading. And actually, your your sister Rebecca gave me this book. If you remember, Rebecca worked for Answers in Genesis out in California one summer, and this gentleman is a creation scientist, and what he has done is with the aid of studying genetics and supercomputers, he has been able to trace through the study of our genetics, where all of us came from. Every ethnic group, every uh subculture, he has been able to trace where folks came from all the way back to guess who? Shem, Ham, and Japheth, the three sons of Noah. Well, we all know that we all came from Shem, Ham, and Japheth, because they were the three sons of Jonah, and everybody on planet Earth, if the biblical record is true, everybody came from them. And so he is able to, with the aid of the study of genetics and supercomputers, uh, he's able to trace where every ethnic group, every subculture came from on planet Earth, just by studying their genetic record. And it's a fascinating book. And um for example, he can take the people who live on Easter Island, way out in the Pacific, and he can tell you where they came from. He can tell you where the Aborigines in Australia came from. He he can tell you where the folks that are uh living in s uh on the west coast of South America where they were derived. And there are people who you think would come from uh one part of the world, but when you study their genetics, they actually came from somewhere entirely different because of their genetic code. He can tell you that. Well fascinating. The evolutionists have totally ignored his research because it doesn't fit their evolutionary model. And so they have dissed, dismissed, and ignored his research. But he has challenged them and offered a financial reward for anybody from the evolutionary camp to debate him and to try to refute his research, but nobody will take up the challenge because they know he's right.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:But they've totally ignored him and will will not debate him. And it's a fascinating read. And so I would I would challenge anybody out there who has the least little bit of genetic understanding and scientific background to get the book traced by Mr. Jordan. Is that right? Jensen.
Speaker 4:Jensen Jensen.
Speaker 2:And uh and read the book because it's a fascinating read. And uh that he even tells you who who the real Jews are. You know, the Jews that are in Israel today are a mishmash of lots of subcultures, right? But there is one subgroup of people who live in Africa who are genetically a pure group of Jewish people.
Speaker 3:Oh, interesting.
Speaker 2:How about that? How about that? But the people who primarily live in in in Israel today, their genetics are a mishmash of many subcultures and ethnic groups, but there is one group of people who live in Africa today who are genetically pure Jews. How about that? So anyway, it's a fascinating read, and I would encourage people to get traced by Nathaniel Jensen and read it. And it and it's written for lay people. That's what I was gonna ask. Who do you think is the intended audience? For Professor Eggheads. Okay, Professor Fuzzy Heads. It's written for lay people, and there are a few places in there where you get it got a little technical, but by and large, it's written for lay people. So I I would encourage anybody out there that that wants to know uh where you came from, it's probably in there.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Oh wow, interesting. Okay, so what about what do we have next on the list? So next we have you want to give us that title?
Speaker 2:This is this one is Vaccines Amen. And it's by Aaron Seary. Now, the subtitle is The Religion of Vaccines. Now, what I find fascinating is this book is written by a lawyer. You would think it was written by a doctor, but Aaron Seary and his group of lawyers have been defending moms and dads for uh probably twenty years, if I'm remembering what he said in the book, against vaccine injuries.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 2:All right.
Speaker 3:So that's different because, like you said, you've typically studied a lot of what doctors and scientists have to say about vaccines.
Speaker 2:But his perspective.
Speaker 3:But his perspective is totally different. This really intrigued me when you were talking about it the other day.
Speaker 2:His perspective is the legal perspective, but he talks like a doctor. Oh, in terms because he quotes medical journal articles as if he were a medical doctor.
Speaker 3:Well, after twenty years, leg you know, dealing with this stuff with the law side, I'm sure that he has a lot of experience and knowledge on the medical side.
Speaker 2:And you see, he he has deposed in legal depositions the top vaccinologist in America. And he is convinced that there are large gaps and large holes in their guy these guys' testimonies, these medical doctors' testimonies, where they have egg on their face about the vaccines and vaccine theory and immunological theory. And um when you begin to read the book, you begin to realize, well, he's right. It's more a religion and a faith than it is a science. And that's why he calls the book Vaccines Amen, the religion of vaccines. And because it requires a great deal of faith on the part of these physicians to believe the things that they propound and the propaganda that they're preaching. And once you begin to read his book, you realize this man's on to something. Because there's a lot of information that the vaccinologists have been preaching to their own choir for a lot of years, that has no basis in science. Has no basis in fact. But they've been preaching it for forty years. But there's no basis in fact. And the choir believes it. The church believes it. And their high priest, who's Dr. Andrew Plotkin, the chief vaccinologist of all, he's been preaching it for a long time. And everybody in his church, everybody in his choir, preaches the same message, and they all believe it, but there's absolutely no basis in fact. And I don't have time to go into that, and this is not the place. All I can say is that I recommend to you the book.
Speaker 3:Now do you need to be a lawyer to read it?
Speaker 2:Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Anybody can read this book and understand it. And and he doesn't get technical at all. And and I highly recommend it to lay people.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 3:All right, good to know. Ah, and I'm very intrigued on that one. All right, next up, what do we got here?
Speaker 2:All right, this is Toxic Empathy, how progressives exploit Christian compassion. And it's by Ali Beth Stuckey. Now I I read through this book so fast I th my fingers were burning. And it's because um she's hit upon a topic that I think is very it deserves a lot of discussion. And and the title is Toxic Empathy. And what she's talking about here is the fact that that liberals, progressives, and uh unwise Christians, biblically ignorant Christians are taken advantage of by the left, and often on issues of the day like abortion, about illegal immigrants, and the LGBT issue, their compassion is misguided and is taken advantage of by the left. And mainly she's take talking about Christian folks. Christian folks who are biblically illiterate and they are their compassion on these issues is very, very misguided.
Speaker 3:Well, they know that you know Jesus called us, called us to love our neighbors, and you know, God calls us to love. So they know that, and that's it. Or very little else. And so they're allowed to be or they've permitted themselves to be exploited by progressives uh because of their ignorance. And um, yeah, I follow Allie Bestucci. She's has a a large following. Uh, she has a podcast and all that stuff, which I'm I'm sure you you know. Um, and and so I think I bought you this book. You did. And uh, and so yeah, anyway, you you can continue.
Speaker 2:But well, the and the reason I like the book is because on each of the issues that she discusses the abortion issue, illegal immigration, the LGBTQ issue, she spends a good deal of time laying groundwork by discussing the biblical worldview. And and I thought that was the best part of the book because misinformed Christians, biblically illiterate Christians, need a book like this to help them understand the proper perspective on these issues so that we don't get the wool pulled over our eyes and so that our compassion is not misguided.
Speaker 3:So she not only addresses the ways that uh people are misguided, she tells the you she tells you what the truth is.
Speaker 2:That's right. She gives you the truth on these issues so that we don't have, like I said, the wool pulled over our eyes, and we don't have we aren't taken advantage of by liberal progressives.
Speaker 3:And you would recommend this also for lay people, especially for lay people.
Speaker 2:This is not such a a thick theology book that lay people won't understand it.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Um I I agree with that. All right, what do we got next up on the list?
Speaker 2:Uh, this is an awesome, totally awesome book. This is called Gringo Mamo. Say it again. Gringo Mamo of the Amazon. All right, now I'm trying to get this guy on the phone. He's the author by Gary Dawson. He was raised in the Amazon on the Orinco River. His parents were uh independent Baptist missionaries. They lived by faith, God provided for them, and they lived amongst the the Indians on the Amazon, and he was raised as if he were uh uh Oh Chuck, what's the name of the Indian group? I can't think of it right now. But anyway, he was raised as if he was an indigenous native Amazon Indian. He grew up speaking the language, he grew up fishing and hunting with the young Indian Amazon boys. Uh let me see. Yeah, Yanamamo, there you go. The Yanemamo Indians, deep in the jungles of Venezuela. And when he grew up, he didn't know he was not that he was any different from them except that he had white skin and blue eyes and blonde hair. But he could fish and hunt with the best of them. He spoke the language, and as he grew up, he spent a lot of time with the shamans. These were the witch doctors. Yeah. And he would interview them, he became friends with them, and he learned the culture. And when he became much older, uh in his late teens, he began to share the gospel. With these shamans. And he learned lots and lots of things about their past history. And um, for example, for example, let me just give you one story that I found intriguing. Um there was uh um an older man who used to be a shaman who became a believer. His name was Bautista Shufoot. Okay. He was very perceptive, but he was a best friend of of uh Gary Dawson's father. And uh one day the a Baptist missionary who was over the uh the school, uh all the children, the young children went off to a boarding school. So he came back with Gary Dawson's younger brother and some of the his friends over Christmas holiday. And so Bautista Shoefoot, one of his friends, came in the house and he saw this Baptist missionary who was over the boarding school, and he immediately began to speak in the language that Gary understood, the Yana Mamo language, and he said to his friend, that man has a demon attached to him. It's a demon of pornography and a demon of child abuse. Well, Gary rebuked him, even though he was an older man and said, That's not true. He's a missionary. He looks after these children. Well, Bautista looked at him and said, Oh no, I know these things. So that man has a demon of pornography and child abuse. He needs to go away from y'all. Well, Gary was very upset and he wouldn't talk to him anymore. Well, that missionary went back to the boarding school and two weeks later he was fired from his job for guess what? Sexually abusing young boys. And you see, Gary began to learn that these ex-shamans, uh shamans, could see and perceive things about the spirit world that he could not see. And he he had he would speak to the shamans and they would look at Bautista and they would see they would say, I see the trail of the demons. They call them the Helucas, the the trail going to you, but I do not see them leaving. And they would see things like that and say things like that. So it's a very fascinating book. And and I strongly encourage my Christian friends to read, obtain and read this book, and it's entitled Gringo Mamo of the Amazon. And if you can find it, I I've had a hard time finding it, to be honest. But if you can find the book and read it, it's a fascinating read about life as a missionary in the deep jungles of Venezuela during the 1950s, 60s, 70s, and early 80s, until uh the government of uh Venezuela became communist and they made all the missionaries leave.
Speaker 4:Right.
Speaker 2:And interestingly, um Gary Dawson didn't have to leave because he was born there. Oh. And so he's still there, and he has the privilege to come and go because he's a considered a naturalized citizen having been born there. But it's a fascinating read, and and the stories will blow your mind of the the experiences that they had there.
Speaker 3:Oh, very intriguing.
Speaker 2:Yep, and I'm trying to get him on the line so that I can interview him for for my listeners.
Speaker 3:Oh, that'll be fun. That'd be a fun listen.
Speaker 2:Working on it.
Speaker 3:Oh, I hope you can make that happen. All right, so what do we have up next? Let's let's go to this one. Oh, go to that one? Okay.
Speaker 2:All right, the next one I got is What Are the Odds? What are the odds is the biography by Mike Lindell. The subtitle is From Crack Addict to CEO. Now, the first 80% of this book is is just emotionally distressing. Because Mike Lindell grew up in a in a broken home, and and he he became pretty much an alcohol addict as a teenager, and then he began operating a a uh he's the my pillow guy. Let me let me ask you. Let me tell you everybody who he is.
Speaker 3:I think he just signed a file to be able to run for governor in uh Minnesota. Yeah, that's where he's from. Yeah, Minnesota. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:All right. Well he uh uh he's the my pillow guy that you see his advertisements on TV. Well, he started running a bar in his late uh early teens late teens, early twenties, and he was a very successful bar operator for twenty years. And then in his like late 30s, early forties, he began using cocaine. And and he did that for like twenty-five years or so, and he was a cocaine addict, and then he became addicted to crack. And the crack just wrecked his life, wrecked his marriage, it it wrecked his business. But what's so fascinating is that he he had this idea for for a pillow, and he and he created the pillow and designed it himself, and and and it became a very successful business for about ten years, even while he was still a crack addict. And not only was he a crack addict, but he was a very successful gambler, and he was what's called a counter. And they would go and and and count cards. Right, right. And he would finance his his personal life and his my pillow business by counting cards. And he would show up with three hundred dollars and a day later leave with fourteen thousand dollars. That's how good he was at it. But then sometimes he would make fourteen thousand and then he would buy crack cocaine cocaine, and seven days later he'd be totally bankrupt, having blown all his money on crack cocaine. And and you know, and and and what was so odd about his book is that he would often talk people out of using drugs, and he would help them get a new start in life. And it and it's just so fascinating that he was such a good and kind-hearted man, helping other people get off drugs. But at the same time, he was still addicted to drugs. And it re it wrecked his family life, and eventually his wife divorced him. Uh he he neglected his children. At one point in time he was five hundred thousand dollars in debt but still promoting his business. Well then uh he began to make connections with famous people and and he kept having premonitions where he would see himself on stage speaking to thousands of people, but he was terrified of being on stage, terrified of being in front of people. And eventually he met Imus in New York, the guy that had the the huge radio program, and it vaulted his business into prominence. And he started doing infomercials which vaulted his business into making tens of thousands of dollars every day. And and eventually he he ended up speaking at liberty to 17,000 students at one time at one day. And and that that was his premonition that he had many years before. And eventually, guess who he meets? Donald Trump becomes a friend of Donald Trump and a promoter of Donald Trump. And you know, the the the trajectory of his life is just amazing. And then at some point in time he he believes that he is a Christian, but he's really not. He just thinks it. He starts hanging out with lots of Christian people. And finally, in the end of the book, he goes to a a um a weekend retreat with a lot of military guys, and that's where he becomes a true believer. Okay, and and so the the conclusion of the book is fascinating, and he realizes that he's not a believer, he becomes a believer, and it and it changes everything in his life. And so I I can't recommend this book enough. It it's a fascinating reading, and I couldn't put it down. I could not stop reading this book. Who do you recommend this book for? I always go to bed at 9 30. Yes. When I was read I was reading this book till 11 o'clock at night. Three nights in a row. I couldn't put it down. And the title is What Are the Odds? CEO, uh a crack addict to CEO, and it's by Mike Lindell himself. And it's just a fascinating read.
Speaker 3:Super interesting. Is that the end of the stack?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think that's all the time we've got. Yeah, I've got to be. I got more than I would tell you.
Speaker 3:All right, I'm gonna run through these titles and authors one last time. The very first, and I'll do them in order that we talked about them. So we've got uh traced, and that's by Nathaniel Jensen, and then we've got Vaccines A Men, and that's by Aaron Seary, then we've got Toxic Empathy by Ali Beth Stuckey, then we've got Gringo Mamo of the Um Amazon by Gary Dawson, and then What Are the Odds from Crack Addict to CEO, and that's by Mike Lindell. Um, and that's a that's a good stack, and uh that that that should get you guys going on the new year, you know, get your new year's resolution and uh pick up those five books wherever you can get them, maybe thrift books or Amazon or or whatever, that's right and and get going.
Speaker 2:And uh that'll give you some good stuff to read over the holidays.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and there's a lot of variety there.
Speaker 2:Don't forget to get Dr. Jackson's books, they're listed on my website, Jackson Family Ministry. Those are good Christmas gifts.
Speaker 3:Oh, that's right. So your first one is the truth about life, and that's your your pro-life journey. Right. So recommend that one if you have questions about pro-life, being pro-life, and uh you just want inspiring emotional stories to keep you up at night. And then your next one was The Family Doctor Speaks, the truth about seed planting. That's right. And that's all about evangelism, the importance of evangelism, how to evangelize, different stories about evangelism that you have from your personal life, correct? Yep. And then you've got, let's see, the third one, is that your dad's book?
Speaker 2:No, the third one's.
Speaker 3:Oh, yeah, the turkey tales.
Speaker 2:Turkey tales and turkey tales and Bible truths.
Speaker 3:And that's for uh men and women. They both like this book, but this is just a lot of stories from your hunting experiences, your your turkey, turkey hunting experiences specifically. And it's just Bible principles that you learned as a turkey hunter. And a lot of guys tend to like it, a lot of the men out there, but women seem to really enjoy it as well and find it to be very interesting and inspiring. And then you have your dad's book, um, which is uh on Laughter Silvered Wings, and that's the biography of your dad and his story, which is a very good, excellent book. Um, and just such an inspiring story of a good, godly man, specifically doctor and family man who loved America. And it just kind of all of those three things really wrapped up in Papa Jackson. And so recommend that book too. And then that's the last one. Your next one's not published, right?
Speaker 2:It's coming soon.
Speaker 3:It's coming soon. We'll tell you about it later. Well, that one, you have to wait.
Speaker 2:Hold your horses, it'll be out soon.
Speaker 3:All right. Well, thanks, Dad. Thanks for sharing with us some of these books that you've read and uh and and your review of them. I really appreciate that. It's always a fun topic to discuss the books you've read each year.
Speaker 2:All right. Well, you're listening to More Than Medicine. I'm your host, Dr. Robert Jackson, and my guest today is the lovely Miss Hannah Miller. And remember, Jesus loves you, and your doctor loves you. We'll be back next week. Till then, may the Lord bless you. Real good.
Speaker:Thank you for listening to this edition of More Than Medicine. For more information about the Jackson Family Ministry or to schedule a speaking engagement, go to our Facebook page, Instagram, or web page at JacksonFamily Ministry.com.
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