MTM - Interview with Ursula Conway..Arizona Chapter CHD

A quiet ranch near the Arizona border, a stack of mandates, and a pharmacist looking for an exemption—that’s the unlikely spark behind covidindex.science, a volunteer-built library now holding more than 2,100 entries of COVID studies, interviews, and podcasts. We sit with Ursula Conway to unpack how a Word document became a public resource adopted by Children’s Health Defense and designed for anyone who needs clear, searchable evidence without the noise.

We walk through how clinicians used CDC myocarditis statements to support medical exemptions for young men, and how families facing cancer searched the index to explore concerns around IgG antibodies, P53 tumor suppression, and ongoing boosters. If you’ve ever tried to remember a term you heard while driving—only to lose the thread—the index’s simple and advanced search makes it easy to find sources by topic, mechanism, or expert, from cancer risk signals to immune responses. Attorneys gain quick access to excerpts for filings, while researchers and patients can follow curated trails that challenge safe-and-effective talking points with primary sources.

Ursula shares why CHD’s team provides scientific oversight while volunteers do the heavy lifting of curation, and how this citizen-led model resists censorship by distributing the work across many hands. We also zoom out to CHD’s wider mission across research, legislation, and litigation on vaccines, wireless exposure, and environmental health, offering a wider lens on informed consent and medical freedom. Whether you’re a doctor, lawyer, parent, or curious listener, you’ll leave with a practical way to engage: search, verify, share—then consider contributing your own findings to strengthen the commons.

Explore the library at covidindex.science, try the advanced search for your topic, and tell us what you discover. If it helps, subscribe, leave a review, and share this episode with someone who needs better sources today.

Chapters

• 0:17 Welcome And Guest Introduction
• 1:16 Ursula’s Path To Medical Freedom Work
• 3:42 Origins Of The COVID Index
• 5:16 What The Index Contains And Why
• 6:01 Exemptions, Myocarditis, And Patient Needs
• 7:56 How To Use The Index For Research
• 10:08 Searching Cancer, Antibodies, And P53
• 12:01 From Volunteer Project To CHD Platform
• 13:50 Call For Volunteers And Contributors
• 16:43 What Children’s Health Defense Does
• 19:50 Closing And Where To Find The Index

Transcript

SPEAKER_00: 0:17

So let's talk because the doctor is a good question.

SPEAKER_01: 0:22

Welcome to Morton Medicine. I'm your host, Dr. Robert Jackson, bringing to you biblical insights and stories from the Country Doctors Rusty Dusty Scrapbook. Well, today I'm privileged to have a very special guest with me all the way from uh, well, I'm not sure where you are out there out west. What part of the country are you in, Miss Ursula?

SPEAKER_03: 0:46

I am in southern Arizona, way down by the border, about 15 miles.

SPEAKER_01: 0:50

All right. Well, I knew it was in Arizona, but I wasn't sure what part of the state you were in. All right, well, my guest is Ursula Conway, and she's with Children's Health Defense. And before we begin, Miss Conway, I'm gonna ask you to tell my listeners a little bit about yourself, how you got involved with children's health defense, and what motivated you, as you say, to get off the couch and get involved. So take it away.

SPEAKER_03: 1:15

Okay. Well, first of all, I need to clarify that I am part of the Arizona chapter of children's health defense. Okay. And so we're a different legal entity, but obviously we operate on their behalf to help promote the issues and education. I was happily living life in retirement after a very busy corporate career as an IT executive. I came down to Southern Arizona to do my own little city slicker version of a ranch where I just have a lot of peace and quiet and a few animals, horses, dogs, cats. And I was quite happy and content in the peace that I found in nature. And um then, and and then the government decided to get involved in my life, to intrude in my life. I have been on a little bit of a different path, medically speaking, for decades. Um and I've taken a great deal of care to nurture my body. In fact, I was taught as a kid that my body is a temple, and I didn't appreciate it when I was a kid, but I certainly did as an adult as issues started to crop up. So I've been off um on the fringes of American medicine for a long, long time. And so then to have the government decide that they got to decide what was going to be injected into my body, I thought there's something wrong with this. That coupled with mandates like masks and you couldn't go anywhere and forcing stores to shut down. I was just fundamentally concerned with our loss of rights from a health and and medical freedom perspective to fundamental rights like the right to go out and meet and worship and go where I wanted to go. So that motivated me. And as I do say quite frequently, it got me off the couch. And at that point, I joined the Arizona Chapter of Children's Health Defense in about 2020. And uh by early 2021, I was its president, and I'm just today, actually, is my last day as president of the organization. I'll continue to be affiliated and fighting for medical freedom, but um it's been an incredibly productive four-year tenure in my role at um the Arizona Chapter of Children's Health Defense. And it was during that time that I met a gentleman who was compiling information about what was going on with COVID. And he was doing it the old-fashioned way in a Word document, and he turned that into a PDF so he could post it online, and we decided there was probably a better way to get this really important information out to the public.

SPEAKER_01: 4:22

Now, what started him compiling the information? I thought I thought that was very interesting.

SPEAKER_03: 4:27

Oh, it is a great story. Um, and these folks are up in north central Arizona. A pharmacist had been mandated to get vaccinated, and he had concerns about the safety of the vaccination and came to his friend, who was a technical writer and researcher, and said, Can you help me pull together documentation to present to my employer so that I can avoid the vaccination? It was a simple, very personal request. And and now, um, when I say it blossomed from the original number of entries, there are now over 2,100 entries in what we call the COVID index.

SPEAKER_01: 5:13

All right. Now what now, what exactly are these entries? What do they look like and what are they about?

SPEAKER_03: 5:18

The entries are an assembly of studies and videos and interviews, podcasts like this one that help any researcher or inquirer to understand what are the positions contrary to that false um COVID narrative that the government was selling us.

SPEAKER_00: 5:42

Okay.

SPEAKER_03: 5:43

So while they were saying safe and effective, there was evidence from the very beginning that the shots were neither safe nor effective. And we wanted to assemble a body of evidence so that people could inform themselves.

SPEAKER_01: 6:00

That's right. And see, my patients desperately needed that in the very beginning. And you know, my patients wanted medical exemptions and religious exemptions, and and they would come to me and ask for that. And fortunately, I had statements from the CDC about the dangers of the vaccine causing myocarditis in young healthy people. So I had lots of young healthy males in particular who worked at a local gym or who were trying to play on sports teams or going to the military, and I was able to help them because there were CDC statements about the vaccine causing myocarditis, and in fact admitting that there were um young, healthy males who were having myocarditis and in fact suffering early heart attacks after taking the vaccine. So I was able to help them with medical exemptions. Um and then uh uh I learned the wording for religious exemptions, and I was able to help people who had sincere, uh, sincerely held religious convictions about receiving vaccines. Uh, but what you're proposing would have been a huge help if I'd been able to find something like that for my patients.

SPEAKER_03: 7:19

It is, and I'm so grateful that that you were concerned enough to find that evidence to be able to share, because we know that censorship was a very active and effective way to suppress the truth from coming out, and it involved not only the tech giants, but government pushing them to suppress information about the actual results of the the COVID campaign, the COVID vaccination campaign.

SPEAKER_01: 7:52

So, now what was an example of how y'all use the COVID index?

SPEAKER_03: 7:56

Well, everybody's going to use it for their own purpose. And we really designed it so that if you're a researcher, it's helpful. If you're an attorney, but perhaps not that familiar with PubMed, you can jump onto the COVID index and pick up excerpts from a study to see whether it's relevant to the case or the article that you're preparing. But I would like to share a couple of ways I have used it personally. Um, unfortunately, many, many people I know in the last few years have contracted cancer. It's almost in any direction I look, both within my family and without, I have friends and neighbors who are dealing with cancer. And so it is very simple to go to covidindex.science. That's the URL. There's no.com, no.org. It's covidindex.science and simply type in cancer. And as of today, there are about 117 articles or podcasts referencing cancer. Because part of what I wanted to do with my family and friends was discourage them from getting more COVID shots. Most of them had at least the initial two, but I certainly didn't want them to continue injecting the spike protein and lipid nanoparticles into their system. So that is an easy way to pull together information that you might share with your loved ones, with the people that you care about.

SPEAKER_01: 9:34

Excellent, excellent. And see, I I have that same dilemma with my patients. Most of my patients are no longer getting the vaccine. In fact, probably less than uh I think 16 or 18 percent of Americans are getting the vaccine now. But I I still have patients who who want the vaccine, and knowing this information would probably be a great help for me to educate my patients.

SPEAKER_03: 10:00

Right. And it's so accessible in this format. We'll be excited to get your feedback as you start using it. Another, another way that I use it, I spend a lot of time driving because, as I said, I'm practically in Mexico. I'm way down by the border. And our major population bases in Arizona are Tucson and Phoenix. So I spend a lot of time driving to gain access to people. And while I do, I listen to podcasts, and I'll hear a reference and can't always make a note of it while I'm driving. And I try and commit it to memory, and then I get back and I say, Oh man, I heard them talking about Ig and some number or IgG and some number, and it has to do with antibodies. And this was still tied to some cancer podcasts I was listening to early on. And then there was also a P, uh something they were talking about that was P in a number. Was it 50? Was it 62? Was P something? And so I'm able to come back to COVIDindex.science and type in IgG and cancer or IgG antibodies and see a list of reports and and begin to understand. And I'm not a scientist, as I pointed out earlier. I I didn't uh take anything but a little bit of biology um in my academic career. And so I'm really not familiar with the lingo, but I now understand that the IgG antibodies are um the beneficial antibodies are being altered, and so they don't fight against cancer, just as P53, which is another tumor suppressor, is being affected by the COVID vaccines. So because I couldn't remember the full topic that was being discussed in the podcast, I was still able to come back to covidindex.science and get reoriented. And by the way, there's an advanced search. So if you remember the name of the person who was talking, you can type that in as well. And that's what I did, IgG antibodies and Kevin McKernan, because he was the first person I was listening to who was isolating the mechanisms of impact of the COVID vaccine and cancer.

SPEAKER_01: 12:38

That's very, very useful. I hear you. Well, now this is an initiative of children's health defense, is that correct?

SPEAKER_03: 12:46

It is, yes. And when it began, it was just a few of us volunteers. I I um and and another volunteer who was more technical who created the initial website. We um did this kind of separate from the Arizona chapter, along with the guy who originated the whole the whole project. And we developed it to a point where it was functional and effective. And we went out to a number of organizations and said, we have developed this terrific directory of evidence, but we can't really carry it forward. We need the weight of a big organization. And we went to Children's Health Defense and they immediately said, You got it, we want it. And so now it is accessible through the Children's Health Defense website or directly at covidindex.science.

SPEAKER_01: 13:41

Well, now, does are there a team of children's health defense scientists who are gathering the information, or is it just you guys?

SPEAKER_03: 13:50

Oh, this is perhaps the most exciting part of the project. It is led overseen by some of the CHD scientists, Brian Hooker, for instance, but the reality is that it's still volunteers like us who are populating the database. And so, for all of your listeners, if you have an interest in what's going on related to COVID, if you want people held accountable for any violations of human rights, if you want to facilitate just the educational aspect of it for people who may still be on the on the line trying to decide whether to get boosters, you can help us by becoming a research associate. And the more people we have contributing to the database, the more information we'll have available. So we're very excited and hope that more people will join us.

SPEAKER_01: 14:50

I've got just the girl for you. One of my one of my one of my fellow associates is is um just the person for you. I I'm gonna have to call her directly and say, you need to check this out. Because she's always sending me information and she's got a huge catalog of of of uh research that she collects her own self. In fact, she could probably send you a hundred studies right away that you may have never seen.

SPEAKER_03: 15:19

Well, wow, that's yeah, she's exactly the type of person we love. And you know, some of our volunteers have medical backgrounds, some don't. It doesn't matter as long as you have an interest in the subject and we train you what we're looking for on each entry.

SPEAKER_01: 15:38

So um Yeah, when I'm when I need when I need medical research for a presentation, she's the one I call.

unknown: 15:45

Oh, that's perfect. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03: 15:47

Yeah, and especially if she has her own catalog, because she we it may make sense to merge that in with what we already have.

SPEAKER_01: 15:55

She probably would. All right, now if somebody, one of my listeners wants to find and support the COVID index, Ms. Conway, how how would they do that?

SPEAKER_03: 16:05

Well, they go to our website, covidindex.science, and if you look, um there is uh a menu item, want to help.

SPEAKER_01: 16:16

Okay.

SPEAKER_03: 16:16

And it's want to help with a question mark. Do you want to help? And go there and it has information, frequently asked questions, and you fill out a form, and we'll reach out to you and uh get you trained.

SPEAKER_01: 16:30

I got you. All right. Now, do y'all just need research or volunteers, or do you need financial support also?

SPEAKER_03: 16:37

Oh, we always need financial support, and that would go through children's health defense.

SPEAKER_01: 16:42

Okay. All right. Now I know some of my listeners probably don't know who children's health defense is, and I know that could probably be a whole nother podcast, but in in in the briefest way possible, tell us tell my listeners who children's health defense is.

SPEAKER_03: 16:58

Okay, children's health defense began about 20 years ago, and it happened because parents of children who were suffering from autism came to Robert F. Kennedy Jr., who is now our secretary of HHS. They came to Bobby Kennedy and said, You're getting mercury out of the rivers and the waters, and that's great. But what about vaccines? You need to look at vaccines. And so he the moms, once again, ordinary moms, brought a stack of studies to Bobby Kennedy and he read them and couldn't walk away from it. He he couldn't believe um what was happening actively to children in the United States. And so he and several of these moms put together children's health defense, and they have been educating the the both the community, moms, dads, and um and legislators, but they've actively been working with legislators to try and improve um the vaccine legislation in our country. And additionally, they have a science department, and so they're actually doing their own science to identify or refute any relationship between vaccines and autism. And I I should be careful because while it began because of this perceived connection between autism and vaccines, CHD is also looking at EMR technology, all of the wireless technology, and the impact that has on health and um geoengineering as well. What is it that we're spraying in our skies to control the weather? Yes, and what is the toxic effect on our bodies? Because what they're spraying is going into our water and into our soil. And so we are, as Bobby Kennedy says, we are swimming in a toxic soup. Our bodies are being assaulted on all sides. So um let me see. I mentioned legislation, I mentioned research, um, advocacy, and and litigation. So children's health defense also brings lawsuits to um try and have an impact on what the government is doing to us.

SPEAKER_01: 19:31

I hear you. Well, that's a mouthful, and that's a lot. Well, we'll I may have to call you back one day and let us just talk about children's health defense. Would that be okay?

SPEAKER_03: 19:41

Oh, I'd be delighted to do that. I'm I'm very passionate about the health of our kids. I want to give them the best start we can.

SPEAKER_01: 19:48

I hear you. I hear you. All right. Well, I'm just so delighted to have you, Miss Conway. This has been a delightful discussion, and and um I'd like to have you back again some other time.

SPEAKER_03: 20:00

Wonderful. I'll look forward to it.

SPEAKER_01: 20:01

All right, you're listening to More Than Medicine. My guest today is Ursula Conway. Uh she was past president of the uh children's health defense out in Arizona, and I'm just delighted to have her as my guest, and she, with some others, originated the COVID index.science. And you can look that up, and I think you'll find a lot of good and useful information there. All right, till next week. Uh I pray that the Lord will bless you real good. And remember, Jesus loves you and your doctor left.