More Than Medicine
More Than Medicine
DWDP: Gen 1; 20 -23 What about the Dinosaurs
Unearth the fascinating connections between faith and science as we explore the biblical account of creation on the fifth day through Genesis 1:20-23. We pose a provocative question: Could the absence of transitional forms in the geological record, noted by both Charles Darwin and Stephen Gould, suggest a different narrative altogether? Discover the rich tapestry of Hebrew language with terms like "nephesh," reflecting the soul or consciousness shared by humans and animals. And, embark on a thought-provoking discussion about "tannin" or sea monsters, as we ponder the scriptural mentions of dinosaurs and dragons. This episode isn't just a journey through ancient texts; it's an invitation to reflect upon the divine revelation of our origin.
Moving beyond theological exploration, we also invite you to engage with our "Devotions with Dr. Papa" series, offering spiritual nourishment and encouragement. Connect with our community through the Jackson Family Ministry and learn how you can access Dr. Jackson's books or book speaking engagements via our social media platforms and website. We hope these insights resonate deeply with you and inspire you to share the journey with friends. Be sure to join us next week for "More Than Medicine," where faith, scripture, and everyday life intersect in meaningful ways.
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Welcome to More Than Medicine, where Jesus is more than enough for the ills that plague our culture and our country. Hosted by author and physician, Dr Robert Jackson.
Speaker 2:Papa, can you tell me a story? Do you really want me to tell you a story? Well, you go, get your brother and your sisters and I will tell you a story. Well, you go, get your brother and your sisters and I will tell you a story. Welcome to Devotions with Dr Papa. Grab your Bibles, gather around and let's look into the written word, which reveals to us the living word which is our Lord Jesus Christ.
Speaker 2:We are continuing in our study of the book of Genesis. We're in Genesis, chapter 1, and we are now at verses 20 through 23. And let me read these verses to you before we begin. Genesis 1, verse 20 to 23. Then God said Let the waters teem with swarms of living creatures and let birds fly above the earth in the open expanse of the heavens. God created the great sea monsters and every living creature that moves, with which the waters swarmed after their kind and every winged bird after its kind, and God saw that it was good. God blessed them, saying Be fruitful and multiply and fill the waters and the seas and let birds multiply on the earth. There was evening and there was morning, a fifth day. At the conclusion of day four, all the necessities for living creatures were present on the earth Light, air, water, soil. Isaiah 45 and verse 18, that God had formed it. Talking about the earth, formed it to be inhabited. Day five and day six were devoted to speaking the living creatures into existence. Now, in verse 20, we see that God said let the waters teem with swarms of living creatures. Now I know that you probably learned in some secular science book or science class that an amoeba-like blob of protoplasma floating in the primordial soup was struck by lightning or some other kind of electrical discharge and was infused with life, thereby beginning the billion year purposeless, directionless climb up the evolutionary ladder that eventually, through through time and chance and many transitional forms, produced higher orders of mammals, including man. In opposition to your secular science class, the Holy Scriptures inform us, us by divine revelation, that God spoke and instantaneously the waters teemed with swarms, with a multitude of living creatures of endless variety that appeared instantly in the waters.
Speaker 2:In the waters, the major problem that the evolutionists face is that there are no transitional forms or intermediate forms in the geological record. It stands to reason that if there are billions of years of time, with millions and millions of transition forms, from the amoeba to the invertebrates, to the vertebrates, that in the geological record there would be all manner of links, all manner of transition slash, intermediate forms preserved in the geological record for us to observe the transition from one form to another. Well, let me give you a few quotes from famous evolutionists regarding the the absence of transitional forms in the geological record. And I'm going to quote to you from page 165 in the Answers book. Now, first I'm going to quote from Charles Darwin himself in his book the Origin of the Species. And this is what Darwin said the numbers of intermediate varieties which have formerly existed on the earth must be truly enormous. Why then is not every geological formation and every stratum full of such intermediate links? Why then is not every geological formation and every stratum full of such intermediate links? Geology assuredly does not reveal any such finely graduated organic chain, and this, perhaps is the most obvious and gravest objection which can be urged against my theory. So Darwin admits in his own book that the gravest objection to his theory is the absence of the intermediate links, the so-called transition form. Well, let me give you another quote from another famous evolutionist. Stephen Gould, who is now deceased, bluntly admitted the extreme rarity of transitional forms in the fossil record persist as the trade secret of paleontology. He goes on to say the absence of fossil evidence for intermediate stages between major transitions in organic design. Indeed, our inability, even in imagination, to construct functional intermediates in many cases has been a persistent and nagging problem for gradualistic accounts of evolution. And then, tongue-in-cheek, the Christian evangelist GK Chesterton put it simply all we know of the missing link is that he is missing and he won't be missed either. So there you have it there's a real problem with the evolutionist because there are no intermediate forms.
Speaker 2:Now let's keep looking at our scripture passage. Now let's keep looking at our scripture passage. If you look in verse 20, it said Let the waters teem with swarms of living creatures. That word living, the word life, occurs for the first time in verse 20 when it refers to living creatures. The Hebrew word is nephesh, n-e-p-h-e-s-h, and is also the word for soul. It is frequently used to refer to the soul of man and the life of animals. Therefore, biblically speaking, plants do not have nephesh, or soul or consciousness, but both animals and man do.
Speaker 2:In verse 20, god speaks and the oceans swarm with sea creatures and the atmosphere is filled with all kinds of birds, birds of all varieties. In verse 21, god performs the second act of true creation and that he speaks into existence, conscious life. Before this, everything is fantastic, but it was inanimate. On day five, he creates the living creatures. The verse 21, is what the King James Version calls the sea monsters, as they oh my. The Bible refers to these sea monsters as dragons. In fact, all large sea creatures, even monsters of the past that are now extinct, are referred to as tannin, even dinosaurs. So let me ask you a question what happened to the dinosaurs? Who knows what happened to the dinosaurs and in fact are dragons, are dinosaurs in the Bible? Well, let me read you some scripture passages that are in the Bible that refer to dinosaurs, that refer to these tannin, and I'm going to read to you from the King James Bible, because it more accurately uses this word tannin and uses the word dragon.
Speaker 2:Start with Psalms 91 in verse 13. Thou shalt tread upon the lion and the adder, the young lion and the dragon shalt thou trample under fit. Psalms 148 in verse 7. Praise the Lord from the earth, ye dragons and all deeps. Look at Isaiah 27 in verse 1. In that day, the Lord, with his sore and great and strong sword, shall punish Leviathan, the piercing serpent, even Leviathan, the crooked serpent, and he shall slay the dragon that is in the sea. You see, the Bible often translates tannin as dragon. So, yes, dragons are in the Bible and perhaps it refers to genuine dragons or dinosaurs. Ezekiel 32 and verse 2, son of man take up a lamentation for Pharaoh, king of Egypt, and say unto him Thou art like a lion of the nations and art as a dragon in the sea. You see, god, the scriptures often refer to dragons. Now, the New American Standard Bible often uses sea monster or serpent, which are equally valid translations of that word, tannin, and sometimes it uses the word leviathan.
Speaker 2:Now let me take you to the book of Job. Now Job has a passage in Job, chapter 40, where it describes a beast, and if it's not a dinosaur, I don't know what it is. Listen to Job, chapter 40, verses 15 through 24. Now you listen to this and tell me what you think. It is Job chapter and, by the way, job is one of the oldest, if not the oldest, book in the Bible.
Speaker 2:Behold now behemoth, which I made as well as you. Now, this is God speaking to Job, behemoth, which I made as well as you. He eats grass like an ox. Behold now, his strength is in his loinsins and his power in the muscles of his belly. He, god, let his maker bring near his sword. Surely the mountains bring him food, and all the beasts of the field play there Under the lotus plants.
Speaker 2:He lies down in the covert of the reeds and the marsh. The lotus plants cover him with shade, the willows of the brook surround him. If a river rages, he is not alarmed, he is confident, though the Jordan rushes to his mouth. Can anyone capture him when he is on watch With barbs? Can anyone pierce his nose? And then he goes on in verse 41. Can you draw chapter 41,? Can you draw out Leviathan with a fish hook or press down his tongue with a cord? Can you draw chapter 41,? Can you draw out Leviathan with a fish hook or press down his tongue with a cord? Can you put a rope in his nose or pierce his jaw with a hook? Will he make many supplications to you or will he speak to you soft words? Will he make a covenant with you? Will you take him for a servant forever? You see, he goes on and talks about behemoth and Leviathan and how great and mighty and strong this dragon is. You see, the biblical writers understood that there was such a thing as a dragon or a dinosaur.
Speaker 2:Now listen to Isaiah, chapter 14 and verse 29. And when the Bible speaks of a flying serpent A flying serpent, are you for real, doctor? Well, just listen to this verse. Isaiah, chapter 14 and verse 29,. When the Bible says Do not rejoice, o Philistia, all of you, because the rod that struck you is broken, for from the serpent's root a viper will come out and its fruit will be a flying serpent. Now, is that symbolism or is that for real? Look at Isaiah, chapter 30 and verse 6. Isaiah 30 and verse 6. Once again, this is the oracle concerning the beast of the Negev through a land of distress and anguish. From where come lioness and lion, viper and flying serpent? Oh my goodness, where does the Bible come off talking about flying serpents? Well, these verses refer to a fiery flying serpent. Was such a thing real? Well, listen to the writing of the 2 century AD naturalist whose name was Alien. Now, this also comes from the Answers book and I want you to listen to what he said.
Speaker 2:This is a quote from a book written in AD 220. It says in AD 220, says even the Egyptians, whom we laugh at, deified animals solely on the score of some utility which they derived from them. For instance, the ibis, being a tall bird with stiff legs and a long horny beak, destroys a great quantity of snakes. It protects Egypt from plague by killing and eating the flying serpents that are brought from the Libyan desert by the southwest wind, and so preventing them from harming the natives by their bite while alive and their stench when dead. Are you kidding me? Do you really think that there are flying serpents that come from the desert, from Libya, into Egypt, and the ibis bird destroys them? Well, this historian and he's not the only one, there are multiple records from historians in that era that describe flying serpents that come from the desert, from the area of Libya, into the Middle East.
Speaker 2:Now think back to the time when Moses was bringing the children of Israel through the wilderness, and you remember the time when they complained against God. And the Bible says that God sent fiery serpents. Exactly that's what the scripture says. He sent fiery serpents that bit them and the poison from the fiery serpent caused many of them to die. And God instructed Moses to put a serpent up on a pole, and if the people looked at the serpent. They would not perish from the venom from the fiery serpent. Now, were these flying fiery serpents that came from the Libyan desert, from the west to the east? We don't know that exactly. All we know is that they were fiery serpents. Now just imagine if they were flying fiery serpents now extinct, but were present in that time of history. Just multiply the terror of the people tenfold. Well now, just so you know that there are things that used to exist that are now extinct. I want you to listen to this record. Did you know that there was a flying serpent that was killed in the desert of Arizona in the United States in April of 1890, and that specimens from it were sent to universities back east? So myth in the 1900s, but were still in existence back then.
Speaker 2:So there are plenty of historical references to dragons, dragon slayers like St Thomas and Beowulf. There are drawings of dragons on cave walls, castle walls, on ancient potter and even on the flags of multiple nations. So let me ask you a question what actually happened to the dragons? What happened to the dinosaurs? Well, my suspicion is that some of them did not enter the ark, and then those who did enter the ark after the flood, because of the changes in the environment. There was a slow extinction due to environmental changes like the Ice Age, and then there was competition with men. And then, if you will recall that every dragon legend ends with the death of a dragon and don't forget, there are diseases and genetic changes that probably led to the elimination of dinosaurs slash dragons. And then let me conclude with this Remember that some dragons were vicious and dangerous.
Speaker 2:In the Bible, satan, who is the enemy of our soul, is called a dragon, that serpent of old. He also uses a serpent to deceive Adam and Eve, to bring sin and death into the world. Satan's attacks leave many afraid and helpless and he roams about like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour. But Christ, our advocate, is a true dragon slayer and has overcome the evil one on our behalf, and God has given him a new name, a name that is above all names. In Christ we have the victory over Satan the great dragon.
Speaker 2:Were dragons real or were they just a myth? Satan and the secularists want you to believe that dragons were a myth, so you will doubt God's Word. The same way, he used the serpent in the Garden of Eden to entice Adam and Eve to doubt the authority of God's Word. Were dragons a myth or did they simply die out? My challenge to you is to trust God's Word over the Word of Professor Fuzzyhead and the secularists, because he wasn't there anyway. How does the professor know he's not in a position to supersede the divine revelation of God's Word? And I'll let you in on a secret Dragons were real, dinosaurs were real, but they're not hiding under your bed. Well, you're listening to Devotions with Dr Papa and if you like what you hear, I pray that you'll like it. Download it, share it, tell your friends about Devotions with Dr Papa. We'll be back again next week. In the meanwhile, I pray that God will bless you real good.
Dr Robert Jackson:Thank you for listening to this edition of More Than Medicine. For more information about the Jackson Family Ministry, dr Jackson's books, or to schedule a speaking engagement, go to their Facebook page, instagram or their webpage at jacksonfamilyministrycom. This podcast is produced by Bob Slone Audio Production at bobslone. com.
