More Than Medicine
More Than Medicine
Interview with Arthur Hampton - Trumps Priorities
Join us for an enlightening conversation featuring Arthur Hampton, Southeast Regional Director for the John Birch Society, as he shares his passionate vision for reshaping America's educational and political horizons. Arthur critiques the federal Department of Education under Donald Trump's presidency, advocating for a return to state-controlled systems and less federal intervention. Through a thought-provoking historical lens, we discuss the decline in educational standards since the department's establishment and the controversial impacts of policies like Common Core. Arthur dives into John Dewey's lasting influence and the shift from Protestant teachings in public schools, offering a compelling argument for educational reform rooted in constitutional values.
Exploring the political arena, we compare the philosophies of JD Vance and John Bolton, stressing the necessity of decisive action and formal congressional declarations in times of conflict. The conversation expands into a spiritual dimension, highlighting the need for a moral and spiritual revival in America, emphasizing faith and prayer as the true catalysts for change. Arthur's insights, coupled with our call for decentralization and vigilance in governance, provide listeners with a profound perspective on America’s future. Engage with Arthur’s perspectives on conservative values and faith-based solutions, and learn how these principles align with the John Birch Society's mission for a nation grounded in spiritual and constitutional integrity.
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Welcome to More Than Medicine, where Jesus is more than enough for the ills that plague our culture and our country. Hosted by author and physician, dr Robert Jackson, and his wife Carlotta and daughter Hannah Miller. So listen up, because the doctor is in.
Speaker 2:Welcome to More Than Medicine. I'm your host, dr Robert Jackson. Welcome to More Than Medicine. I'm your host, dr Robert Jackson, bringing to you biblical insights and stories from the country doctor's rusty, dusty scrapbook. Well, I'm delighted today to have as my guest once again Arthur Hampton, who's the Southeast Regional Director for the John Birch Society. So, arthur, welcome to More Than Medicine.
Speaker 3:Thanks for having me, Dr Jackson. Yeah, I'm the Southeastern Regional Director for the John Birch Society. We're all about educating people about the truth of what true Americanism is and exposing communism and making sure the legislators know the Constitution and what the difference between the constitutional things are and communism is.
Speaker 2:Well, I appreciate that. In fact I've attended and actually taught the Constitution is the solution class that's sponsored by John Birch Society and it's very educational and informative and I have thoroughly enjoyed that particular class. Anyway, here's. Here's my question for the day. Arthur hampton um, now that, uh, john donald trump. Did I say that right or is that backward donald john? Which is it?
Speaker 2:you think I would know by now well, anyway, now that president-elect trump Trump is in full swing with appointing his cabinet, what do you see as his priorities going forward? As a conservative and as an educator, and as one who keeps up with politics, arthur, what do you see as his priorities going forward?
Speaker 3:Well, the main thing he's been talking about that I enjoy is ending the Department of Education on the national level.
Speaker 2:That's right.
Speaker 3:And first off, at the outset, there is no constitutional authority to establish a federal department of education, so essentially it's unconstitutional, and so that's the first thing. Secondly, we poured millions and millions and millions of dollars into this, and to what use? It hasn't helped education at all. All it's been able to do is issue things out nationally, like Common Core, and push LGBTQ garbage and pornography in the classrooms, and it has done nothing to help education on a national level.
Speaker 2:And we continue to be near the bottom in terms of the first world countries.
Speaker 3:Well, just look at the stats where we were before the Department of Education was established. We were pretty high up and then, when it was established, it just dive-bombed.
Speaker 3:That's right, that's exactly right, and so according to Alex Newman, he said this the machine ain't broken. It's running exactly how it's supposed to run. And if you listen to John Dewey from years ago, he's the father of progressive education and basically the father of the modern-day government-run school system. He did this to lower the literacy rate, to make people more pliable, so we could work in factories and not think for ourselves and not buck the government. He also signed off on the Humanist Manifesto and about atheists that hated God, that's right.
Speaker 3:And at the time we were teaching not only the Bible but mainly. The schools were Protestant at the time and we even taught catechisms in schools. And for those that don't know what that is, that's a series of questions and answers. You teach children so that they can learn doctrine maybe not understand it, but they can memorize it and then you teach them later to understand.
Speaker 2:When he says doctrine, you mean Bible doctrine.
Speaker 3:Well, doctrine yes, the first few questions are like who made you? The answer is God. What did God make? Well, he made everything. Why did God make you? He made me to glorify Him. You know different things like that.
Speaker 2:Basic questions.
Speaker 3:And they were inherently Protestant and that's why there was a big push several years back and I forget the exact date for the Roman Catholics to start Roman Catholic schools and they even made their own catechism, called the Baltimore Catechism, because they didn't like the Protestant catechism and the Protestant schools. And so you see a lot of those Catholic schools still around today because at the time we still truly had a public school system that taught Protestant Christian theology and philosophy.
Speaker 2:And a biblical Protestant worldview.
Speaker 3:A biblical, protestant worldview, but now that has we don't have a public school system anymore worldview. But now that has we don't have a public school system anymore, we have a government-run school system and they are pumping out little communists that hate god like, uh, like nobody's business. I think the statistic was um uh one. Let's see 85 to 90 percent. So if you send your child into the government-run school system, they will turn away from the faith before their sophomore year of college by 85 to 90 percent I got you.
Speaker 2:Thank you, and, and, and. Donald trump wants to turn all of that back to the states. He wants to abolish the national education cabinet and system and turn it all back to the states.
Speaker 3:Right and he's talking about letting Elon Musk and one other guy, I forgot who it was take charge of that. If he gets rid of that and lets Elon slash it like he did, twitter, eliminating 90% of Twitter.
Speaker 3:The employees yeah, slash it like you did, Twitter, eliminating 90% of Twitter, the employees. Yeah, If you could do that to the federal government, I think we would be correct, because I think we'd do it a lot better. I mean the federal government. Robert Welch said I don't know, 50-some years ago, if we reduced the size of government to just the 18 enumerated powers given to Congress who has the power of the purse we would have successfully reduced the size of government by 80%. Well, since he said that the size of government has increased tremendously, I think we're closer to 90% of reduction of all the things that they do not have the power to do. I mean, the weakest form of government our founders give us was the federal government. The main power was supposed to be for the states, because we are the United States of America, we're not the United State of America.
Speaker 2:That's right. That's right. How many federal employees are there? Do you remember the number?
Speaker 3:Oh no, I don't know the entire number. It's ginormous. Just the 87,000 IRS agents they were wanting to hire was just a drop in the hat. If you look at the last 10 years, they've increased the size of government by, I think, over half a million, I believe. Yeah, yeah, I think over half a million, I believe.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I was listening to a talk show host just a week ago and the number is 41 million. If you add them all together all that was spread all over the United States the total number of federal employees is 41 million. Wow, I mean, that's more than the total number of people who live in multiple of our largest states.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean, how many people do we have in the military? What half a million in the Army?
Speaker 2:Well, I don't know, but it's sucking the lifeblood out of America.
Speaker 3:Well, what happens is and I saw a sign. I think I was driving in the upstate. I saw a sign, you know, mcdonald's hiring closers $15 an hour. Okay, now you don't have to demand a $15 an hour minimum wage. If the economy does itself, you know, it always corrects itself. But the problem is, the reason they're offering so much is because they can't find employees. Now where are they all going? They're either not looking for a job, or why would I work at McDonald's for even $15 an hour when I can go to work for the government, work half as hard and get benefits in the world?
Speaker 2:That's right, and you get government benefits.
Speaker 3:That's right and you get government benefit Absolutely, and that's what's happening is they're sucking the corporations that actually produce something. They're draining them of the people that they can hire. The pool's a lot smaller, and so that's what's happening. And not to mention, you're increasing the debt. Inflation goes up and I, like what milton freeman said I mean you either, the ballot, the trying to get a balanced budget is is is folly, because the, the government, excuse me, the economy always balances itself out. You either pay for it in taxes or you pay for it in inflation, and that's why inflation's been skyrocketing lately, because the government keeps doing things and spending money.
Speaker 2:Spending more money than we've got. What would be his next priority if he can accomplish that task of sending the Department of Education back to the states? What do you see as his next priority?
Speaker 3:His next priority should be to end the Federal Reserve, but he hasn't spoken on that. I don't think he's ever spoke on that, probably because he knows history and the last president to really talk about that got shot, and that was kennedy well now, why is that such an important thing in the federal reserve?
Speaker 3:well, I'll go back um 100 and some odd years ago 120, 120-something, maybe 110 years ago, I don't remember the exact date. But Meyer Rothschild said let me issue and control a nation's wealth and I care not who makes its laws. That's right. And so what they do is they throw money around because they can print as much money as they want, or even now, they don't even have to print it.
Speaker 3:They just click a button on a computer and bo it is create money out of nothing yeah, truly create money out of nothing, um, and not even need to take an effort to print it off, um well, now, what exactly is the federal reserve?
Speaker 2:so for my listeners, tell, tell them what you mean by the federal, the Federal Reserve is a GMO, a non-government organization.
Speaker 3:They're a private entity and nobody really knows who the board members are and they basically just print money. And supposedly it was started to try to curb inflation. But the problem is it's caused all of the inflation that we have by printing so much money and inflating it. But every time you give someone the power to inflate, they do because they have a reason not to inflate. Now, for the people out there that doesn't think inflation is wrong, let me explain it in simple terms.
Speaker 3:So if I take a, you have a nice truck, dr Jackson. If I take a baseball bat, to your headlights, I have devalued your property. Now by devaluing your property Now, by devaluing your property, I need to pay you restitution to bring your property back up to where it was prior to the offense, and in some cases, most of the time, it's a fifth or, depending on the, for your trouble. But either way, I'm supposed to pay you restitution to bring that back up to where it was Now. What inflation does to pay you restitution to bring that back up to where it was Now? What inflation does is it devalues your property, your money or whatever money you have saved up, and they do not pay restitution.
Speaker 2:No restitution ever.
Speaker 3:So, for example, my father just retired a few years ago. Let's say he saved up $100,000 for easy, you know, easy. So if inflation and true inflation from 2020 is sitting right at about 46% close to half, so if he saved up $100,000 in 2019 and 20 to retire on, inflation hits at about 46 percent and everything costs double around about that just means you have stolen half of his retirement, half of his money, because it's only going to go half as far, and so it is a backhanded way to steal or tax people that retire, or people that have money, people that have assets in money and people that have savings accounts.
Speaker 2:That's right, that's right, and there's no restitution.
Speaker 3:Right and they don't pay any restitution for that. It is a devaluing someone's property and not paying restitution back, and that is the evil of it. And the Bible tells us we should have just weights and measures, because back then they weighed the money to find out how much it was worth. They weigh gold, they weigh the silver to see how much is there. And to have a just measurement is to have the same measurement for one as the other and to not try to cheat somebody. Well, what they're doing is they're cheating us out of our own money.
Speaker 2:Now. Is that why Ron Paul has been clamoring for us to return to the gold standard for all of these years?
Speaker 3:Absolutely, and that's the other reason they hate Bitcoin is because they don't control it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they hate Bitcoin is because they don't control it. Yeah, well, I understand that President-elect Trump has been claiming that he's going to make Bitcoin great again.
Speaker 3:Well, as long as they can't control it, I think we should be okay. Now, the problem with digital currencies is you know, we just had that hurricane come through and the power went out and the Internet went out and the cell phones went out and I lost it. You can't really trade Bitcoin unless you have power.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. Well, bitcoin is not a tangible asset, and that always concerns me when people are dealing with a digital asset like that. It's not a tangible asset, it just concerns me greatly.
Speaker 3:Right, and that's the other reason why they're pushing a central bank digital currency is because they can quell rebellion very quickly. Look at the trucker convoy in Canada. It went on and on and on for weeks, if not a couple of months, and the reason how they quelled it was they froze all the bank accounts.
Speaker 2:Froze everybody's assets, exactly right.
Speaker 3:Absolutely.
Speaker 2:And you see, when people have hard assets like gold or silver, you can't control them. You can't control them with frozen assets.
Speaker 3:Also it's a violation of our Fourth Amendment because they can see what you do with your money. We have a right to privacy, to not have our stuff, our property, searched and seized and can see what you're doing. Then that's a violation of your privacy.
Speaker 2:That's right. The government shouldn't have any access to my assets or knowledge of my assets. Well, let's move on to the next thing. What's the next thing you think Donald Trump should do beyond that?
Speaker 3:Well, I do like a lot of his picks for his cabinet. He's talking about cabinet, um, he's talking about um. Now, what's the guy from kentucky, massey? Yep, um, I don't think, uh, massey should take the position, because he holds a senior seat, um, where he's at now, um to, for you know, four years of something.
Speaker 2:But I do like a lot of the new picks that he's he's doing yeah, he's picking a lot of outsiders, which makes me he's doing yeah, he's picking a lot of outsiders, which makes me really happy people that are outside the Beltway, and that really fires me up that he's not choosing inside the Beltway people that are accustomed to Washington DC.
Speaker 3:And I think that just comes from experience, because he got burned the first time, you're right, by picking all these people that were supposedly experienced, and he had a lot of CFR members, he had a lot of people in there that I didn't think was good and I mean he fired John Bolton. He gained a lot of respect from me for that, that's right. His warmongering, um, now it also concerns me about jd vance, because jd vance may not be as warmongering as a john bolton let's go to war everywhere but he does. He is a neocon in that he wants to go into israel and, you know, do war there, war there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we'll see. We'll see how all that pans out.
Speaker 3:And so that does concern me. Now I will say, his first term was very you know, as far as war goes very quiet.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I agree. He kept us out of the wars, and the ones that he was involved with were quick and over in a hurry.
Speaker 3:And that's how war should be. I mean, if you have an enemy, go in, blow them up, be done with them and end it. Don't proxy war garbage that drags out and drags out and end I agree. And so that's one of the other things that I'd like to see again is actual peace, because the last time Congress declared war was what? World War II? Yep, that's right. Let's wait until Congress declares war and then go. How about we do it Supposed to do?
Speaker 2:All right. Well, let me ask you one last question. Can Donald Trump bring a spiritual revival in America?
Speaker 3:I think only the Holy Ghost can do that. That's right. That's right, that's right. He can spur people on to do that. But, like I was saying earlier, I fear that when he gets to be president, people would just fall asleep and say OK, well, we're good. But the problem is we need to stay ever vigilant. We need to be like Paul and say I've ran the race, I finished the race. This isn't a sprint, it's a marathon, that's right.
Speaker 3:Continue to stay vigilant, because in four years right now we've got a little reprieve, but in four years, who's going to be the president? Is it going to be Kamala Harris again? Or is it going to be Gavin Newsom? Is it going to be Pelosi? You don't know who it's going to be. And what we need to be doing is educating people and educating our Congress for sure, because they have the power to rein in the president when they do something wrong. And I'll give you an example of that.
Speaker 3:When Trump signed away bump stocks, congress said no, no, no, no. We're going to stop that and overturn that because that's unconstitutional. Now, they did that with Trump on bump stocks, but when Biden got in there and started doing all this craziness, they didn't do a thing, and so that concerns me. Why stand up here and not over here? But we need to elect good congressmen. That way, whoever the president is, they can hold them to the limited, very limited powers that the president should have. Because you look at the last three or four presidencies Trump gets in there the first time. He does a lot of good. He writes all these presidencies. Trump gets in there the first time. He does a lot of good. He writes all these executive orders. Then Biden gets in there, writes all these executive orders and then undoes everything that Trump does. That's right.
Speaker 3:And then he comes in there and by executive order does some good. It's only temporary, unless we have an educated Congress. But you see other countries like a monarchy. That's kind of how we're being run right now. You have a king and he writes all these edicts or decrees and then he dies and his son takes over and then he undoes all his decrees and then writes his own. Our government was not meant to run like that. We just escaped a monarchy. Our founding fathers just escaped a monarchy and they didn't want the same form of government. That's why they give us what they give us. That's right.
Speaker 2:I agree.
Speaker 3:And to top that off, one of the things that I noticed and I don't think most people noticed it, Let me go back and watch it again Putin and Tucker Carlson's interview, when the biggest thing that Putin critiqued America on was what he called inefficiency. You're so inefficient, you've got all these state governments legislating. He said. I'd get rid of all those and just have one legislator. Well, that shows you that's communism.
Speaker 2:That's right.
Speaker 3:Essentialist power telling everybody else what to do. But our founding fathers give us a decentralization of power so that it's harder to control all of it, because we want to decide what we can do, and there's freedom in that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and safety, Exactly right. Well, I appreciate it, Arthur. Our time has run out and I appreciate your expertise and your insights, and I encourage our listeners to keep praying for our president-elect, pray for our Congress and remember Donald Trump is a political feature, he's a political creature. He is not the true Messiah. There's only one true Messiah and that's our Lord Jesus Christ.
Speaker 2:Pray for spiritual awakening in our land and continue to be on your knees. Pray for America, pray for our president-elect, pray for revival in your own heart, pray for revival in your own family. Pray for revival in your own heart, pray for revival in your own family, pray for revival in your community and ask with a sincere heart that Holy Spirit would move freely and powerfully in our land. That's our only hope. Our hope is not in a man. Our hope is not in a political party. Our hope is in the Lord. Jesus Christ, you're listening to More Than Medicine. My guest today is Arthur Hampton with the John Birch Society. I appreciate his insights. Arthur, thanks for being here and I trust you'll come back and be with me again another day.
Speaker 3:Excellent, thanks for having me.
Speaker 2:All righty, we'll be back again next week. May the Lord bless you real good.
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